Comments on: ROI and double standards http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed support for Brain Friendly Learning practitioners Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:36:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Martin Haworth http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards/comment-page-1#comment-591 Martin Haworth Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:00:09 +0000 http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/?p=1472#comment-591 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">ROI and double standards | Brain Friendly Trainer http://ow.ly/1C4Jj</span></span> ROI and double standards | Brain Friendly Trainer http://ow.ly/1C4Jj

]]> By: TNM Coaching http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards/comment-page-1#comment-561 TNM Coaching Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:55:02 +0000 http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/?p=1472#comment-561 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">ROI and double standards at Brain Friendly Trainer http://ow.ly/1C4Jx</span></span> ROI and double standards at Brain Friendly Trainer http://ow.ly/1C4Jx

]]> By: Jo Higgins-Cezza http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards/comment-page-1#comment-483 Jo Higgins-Cezza Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:15:09 +0000 http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/?p=1472#comment-483 thanks Paul for having a rant - you're quite justified and I loved Gavin's comment too. One of the myths I hate having to fight is that organisations can't afford coaching because there's a recession on! Duh!!!! that's exactly why you need coaching and training to make sure you do get the most out of what you have, something most organisations are not particularly skilled at. There's my rant for the day! thanks Paul for having a rant – you’re quite justified and I loved Gavin’s comment too. One of the myths I hate having to fight is that organisations can’t afford coaching because there’s a recession on! Duh!!!! that’s exactly why you need coaching and training to make sure you do get the most out of what you have, something most organisations are not particularly skilled at. There’s my rant for the day!

]]> By: Gavin Meikle http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards/comment-page-1#comment-472 Gavin Meikle Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:01:46 +0000 http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/?p=1472#comment-472 Thanks for sharing Paul. Your arguments are sound and sensible. I remember hearing someone on the radio say "Imagine you turned on the news and heard the England Manager being interviewed. He said that he was stopping the team training untill the results improved. People would be up in arms about it, calling the manager crazy, stupid and short sighted." But what do we say about managers who do the same thing today in business? Its a funny old world! Keep blogging Thanks for sharing Paul. Your arguments are sound and sensible. I remember hearing someone on the radio say “Imagine you turned on the news and heard the England Manager being interviewed. He said that he was stopping the team training untill the results improved. People would be up in arms about it, calling the manager crazy, stupid and short sighted.” But what do we say about managers who do the same thing today in business? Its a funny old world! Keep blogging

]]> By: Linda Williams http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards/comment-page-1#comment-470 Linda Williams Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:53:03 +0000 http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/?p=1472#comment-470 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">ROI and double standards - http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards</span></span> ROI and double standards – http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards

]]> By: Jooli Atkins http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/reflect/roi-and-double-standards/comment-page-1#comment-468 Jooli Atkins Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:34:42 +0000 http://www.brainfriendlytrainer.com/?p=1472#comment-468 Paul Thanks for your passion on this one. I winds me up no end and outlining the double standards in organisations in this way is really helpful. Best guess is better than no attempt to provide return at all and Phillips ROI calculations can really help to formulate a reasonable return estimate. You mentioned that most trainers evaluate at Kirkpatrick Level 1 and here Level 4 but I believe that the most important Kirkpatrick Level is 3 - transfer into the workplace because if we don't evaluate that we can't do the Level 4 evaluation at all, let alone with any reliability. Thanks again for highlighting these double standards - let's keep working to change that. Jooli Atkins Paul

Thanks for your passion on this one. I winds me up no end and outlining the double standards in organisations in this way is really helpful. Best guess is better than no attempt to provide return at all and Phillips ROI calculations can really help to formulate a reasonable return estimate.

You mentioned that most trainers evaluate at Kirkpatrick Level 1 and here Level 4 but I believe that the most important Kirkpatrick Level is 3 – transfer into the workplace because if we don’t evaluate that we can’t do the Level 4 evaluation at all, let alone with any reliability.

Thanks again for highlighting these double standards – let’s keep working to change that.

Jooli Atkins

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